BetOnline Has new Owners -- Former Leadership of Thieving Sportsbook BetOnSports

[Dirty]

It has been brought to GamblingIQ's attention that Betonline was sold a couple of months Back. It was Rumored the Clive Archer who was a High Ranking in management at Failed Sports Book BetOnSports. BetOnSports went Bust after the Arrest of CEO of the Public English Corporation David Carruthers and the subsequent Indictment in 2006 and the arrest of Owner Gary Kaplan back in 2007. Here is a list of Complaints against Kaplan.

Clive Archer Confirmed his Ownership with his linked in Profile that was posted by Poster Grand Slam over at Peepsplace.com and was later Confirmed in that thread by a poster named BetOnline that many believe was Archer himself posting.

I learned of the new ownership a few weeks before it was made public but couldn't get 100% validity, but did remove BetOnline from the Gambling IQ website in all manner and fashion. We don't condone books that are ran by knows thieves of posters funds and never will. This was not the only reason as the BetOnline was taken down as the whole family of BetOnSports books had a long history of slow paying players and confiscating funds for no reason at all from people who won playing at their books. In all likelihood the well knows chicanery and immoral acts committed in the past will continue at this new operation.

But the main reason that I am just now reporting on this is the fact that I had heard there was another partner, Dalton Wagner, a manager from the old BetOnSports days as well. I have confirmed from very reliable sources that he is a co-owner of BetOnline. It was highly rumored that Wagner had taken off with the whole BOS database after the close of the company and was rumored to have had a small ownership stake in BetOnline since they Merged with Bestline Sports and became BetOnline. This could never be confirmed so it was never reported as fact. The sources I talked to said Wagner bought out an owner who was pinched in the bust of several BetOnline Agents in the US s few months back.

The reason players should be alarmed over this is both were involved in the Day to Day operations of BetOnSports and had to condone the actions they were taking against their players who won or would have quit and worked elsewhere. Be Highly aware of what is going on with BetOnline and I suggest you get any Balances you have in this book out Immediately!!!!


The BetOnSports Plc Family of books Included Millenium Sports (Bet Mill), Easybets, MVPSportsbook, and many others.

[Reno Paul]

Good move to take out BetOnline as one of our sportsbooks......Sounds like they have shady ownership.

[Dirty]

It Now Looks like Sting, the owner of Gambling911, has gotten his feelings hurt because of an expose of crooks owning Betonline Now. If everyone remembers Correctly Sting Got his Start working in the BetOnSports Offices before he went to the RX and work for Shrink. Funny How he has an epiphany to take up for sportsbook owners who were implicitly involved in the daily theft of players money at the BetOnSports Criminal Enterprise, but has taken to destroying a Man's family who gave him his start in the offshore gaming portal world. He should be ashamed to send his sheep to slaughter from people with an outright past of stealing from winning Sports Bettors




BetOnLine.com New Ownership Should Keep Ship Afloat | Gambling911.com

[Dirty]

Dalton Wagner took off with the BetOnSports Database when they were going thru all their mess and that is how Betonline built their clientele in the first place.. no one could actually place him as a part owner even though he was always lurking around... Now it has been confirmed... And Stingypoo and his band of plagerizing and article making up Minions are gladly taking up for Crooks who have a detailed past in stealing poster money and were proud of it.... They never changed... AS far as I am concerned BetOnline Should pay the over $11k Dollars that Bet Mill Stiffed EOG Posters on in a Baseball Contest I ran over there and could not get them to pay Once all this happened.. and this was before all the funds were frozen they had a small time period to pay some people and they refused... The Two Crooks Now at BetOnline should be held responsible for it and any other debts owed by BetOnSports

[Heartman]

Thanks for the warning.

[BigDaddy]

i won that contest to and they ran with the money

now the guy is owner of betonline?

[Heartman]

The BOS crowd were scumbags.

How much did they stiff you for BD?

[BigDaddy]

The BOS crowd were scumbags.

How much did they stiff you for BD?

they didn't really stiff me for wagering money just a huge forum contest they ran all year that they took the money and ran.

you have to ask dirty i think it was over 2k

but it was one contest you needed to be active and i was active.

so it wasn't like it was a freeroll or anything.

[BigDaddy]

i wonder if contacting the betonline poster at SBR his name is alex would do any good?

[Dirty]

i won that contest to and they ran with the money

now the guy is owner of betonline?

Technically it was Kaplan's Money, but the point is these Crooks who carried out all of Kaplan's Stealing and thieving are now the owners of BetOnline

[BigDaddy]

Technically it was Kaplan's Money, but the point is these Crooks who carried out all of Kaplan's Stealing and thieving are now the owners of BetOnline

yeah you would know more about it then me.

i know i was told they ran with the money and nothing could be done.

[Dirty]

The BOS crowd were scumbags.

How much did they stiff you for BD?

they didn't really stiff me for wagering money just a huge forum contest they ran all year that they took the money and ran.

you have to ask dirty i think it was over 2k

but it was one contest you needed to be active and i was active.

so it wasn't like it was a freeroll or anything.

they were supposed to pay out a little over $11k ... I do Believe it was like $11, 500... I would have to look it up at EOG to get the exact number....And I I remember correctly.. I can go into my spread sheets at EOG and emails, but I do believe Big Daddy won $2k ... We had some good prizes... and he is correct..you had to be active every month....

i wonder if contacting the betonline poster at SBR his name is alex would do any good?

I doubt it... but can't hurt

[BigDaddy]

i have given betonline action in the past but if i had known the guy that stole from me was the owner i would never had opened up an account with them.

[Dirty]

i have given betonline action in the past but if i had known the guy that stole from me was the owner i would never had opened up an account with them.

The deal just has went thru a few months ago.... Joe Jr. and his guys owned it before the October 2009 busts.. and after the busts Clive Archer and Dalton Wagner bought the place

[BigDaddy]

The deal just has went thru a few months ago.... Joe Jr. and his guys owned it before the October 2009 busts.. and after the busts Clive Archer and Dalton Wagner bought the place

so it is dalton wagner?

that is the guy i spoke with once and told me if i didn't start giving them 50/50 action he would close my account and not pay me and that was my final warning.

i have never heard something so crazy in my life. i thought to myself WTF?.

he said i bet to many halftime bets and not enough full game bets

LOL!

[BigDaddy]

that name doesn't sound right?

it wasn't dalton

who was the the guy at betmill?

[BigDaddy]

Tom?

[Dirty]

It was Norm Steinberg Using the name Tom Miller....He left there after the $Multimillion theft and ran Bet Mania

[Dirty]

so it is dalton wagner?

that is the guy i spoke with once and told me if i didn't start giving them 50/50 action he would close my account and not pay me and that was my final warning.

i have never heard something so crazy in my life. i thought to myself WTF?.

he said i bet to many halftime bets and not enough full game bets

LOL!

They did some stupid shit.... you should have seen some of the Complaints we had with them.... Shit you couldn't imagine... I felt Sorry for General as he handled most of them... I only did a few when he got really backed up... but I always talked to him about all of them to get other perspectives and stuff

[BigDaddy]

It was Norm Steinberg Using the name Tom Miller....He left there after the $Multimillion theft and ran Bet Mania

Tom Miller that was him that i spoke with not by choice but i called in once to make a wager and was transfered to him and thats when i was told 50/50 action final warning.

i was like what if i have money in my account? he said final warning.

unreal